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Captain Mullet
05-10-2014, 07:51 AM
Does anyone know if Plastic Kegs America, based in TX is still in business? I've been trying to contact them to get bungs for my Pins with no response. Their FB page hasn't been touched since April 7 and the phone just says someone is on the line, then beeps for a bit until silence. If they have folded, does anyone know where I could get bungs for their kegs and firkens? Thanks.

Bainbridge
05-10-2014, 08:57 AM
Interresting...

You can get shives for PKA's plastic casks at http://www.ukbrewing.com/ Just ordered in more myself, but UK Brewing was sadly out of keystones. I've used different varieties of plastic keystones before though, and they all worked.

yap
05-12-2014, 06:21 AM
Put me on the list if anybody finds out about the status of PKA. I've got a half dozen warranty claims that I need to send back to them. With all the issues and lawsuit crap, it wouldn't surprise me if they just disappeared. I'm already trying to figure out how to replace 2/3 of my float to get rid of the plastics. My guess is it won't be long before you can't give them away...

gyropilot1
05-18-2014, 07:27 AM
The Rehrig Pacific Pubkeg . I am looking at their product and wonder is the are still alive.
Charles

Public_beer
05-19-2014, 11:52 AM
Hey guys, I think I'm probably one of the "lucky" few to still be getting any kind of information from them. (Although it's widely spaced and consistently bad news.) They strung me along for over 2 months on a 3-4 week promised turn time for some quarters. Ultimately to tell me they couldn't fill the order. What the $@#!? So now I'm wrestling to get my deposit back to free up my financing and get something from another supplier.

Here's what I know. They don't respond to emails without repeatedly increasing the urgency. When they did respond, (which happened only after I also had the bank contacting them) it was very unprofessional. IE emails coming from addresses of FORMER employees, unsigned emails, no sense of urgency or remorse for what they've put us through. I was a cautious supporter of PKA through their whole legal mess. Their products worked well for us while self distributing the last couple years. They were good with warranty work and Darcie was very pleasant and responsive to us. I can say that at this point, I have as much respect for them and their business practices as they have concern/ethics regarding their customers. Which is, apparently, zero.

I don't know for a fact that they're going out of business. But if they weren't heading that way already, I'm sure that their current customer service practices will have people ushering them down the path.

All this from a laid back guy who just wants to make beer! I mean, come on! I'll send you money, you send me kegs. Simple, right!

Matt

ChesterBrew
05-19-2014, 12:58 PM
Saw it first-hand in the dot-com era, saw it first-hand in the housing bubble. Without ascribing any particular moments or companies to it, ladies and gentlemen, we are witnessing the beginning of of the end of the craft beer bubble.

banjo
05-19-2014, 01:19 PM
I'm not sure what's up with PKA, all I've heard is they are reorganizing.
I don't agree about the bubble business. PKA has had a tough row to hoe with first the general acceptance of plastic kegs, then the hurdle of the exploding plastic keg problem that killed one young man and set off a storm of speculation regarding Plastic kegs in general (I've been assured the keg in question was not PKA) So to say this is a bubble indicator ignores a lot of turmoil over the years. Most of the other manufactures covering every aspect of the craft beverage industry I talk to on a daily basis are doing great and expanding.

ChesterBrew
05-19-2014, 01:31 PM
So to say this is a bubble indicator ignores a lot of turmoil over the years. Most of the other manufactures covering every aspect of the craft beverage industry I talk to on a daily basis are doing great and expanding.

You are welcome to ignore the bubble. If you don't see it... I'm totally happy with history showing which one of us is wrong.

banjo
05-19-2014, 01:43 PM
Yes, I guess time will tell.
I'm sure there is a trough coming to the current wave, there always is, I just don't think this is it.

Bainbridge
05-19-2014, 03:05 PM
You are welcome to ignore the bubble. If you don't see it... I'm totally happy with history showing which one of us is wrong.
- Chester River Brewing Company (in-planning, opening in 2014)


Well it's a good thing that you're already fully open, well established, and ready to WEATHER THE COMING STORM... I mean, why would someone voluntarily join in on the tail end of a bubble? That's just crazy!

Doom...doom...doom....

We've always had good dealings with PKA but that was about two years ago, so I can't speak for now. But I've been known to defend them when people jump immediately to the All Plastic Kegs Explode Always So Let's Freakout bandwagon. We have around 160 of their kegs in circulation and we've never had a problem, other than two wonky valves, which they replaced overnight for free. I do imagine they've had some Interesting Times in the last year. Still, that's no excuse for shoddy service.

dwinick
12-10-2014, 10:57 AM
Hi

This is my first post to the forums and hope that I'm not berated for not being a brewer. We make hard cider. We're located in Michigan. We are just getting our paperwork finalized.
Here's my question...
I'm trying to find a way to keg our product in one-way [20L] kegs for distribution to pubs.
We cannot afford SS kegs as the cleaning and sanitizing equipment is cost prohibitive for us right now.
SO..
I'm sure that many of you have had this issue and am asking for advice.

Many thanks in advance
David Winick

Luch15
12-10-2014, 11:31 AM
PubKegs produced by Rehrig, offer a oneway keg solution that are single use, we have been using them on and off for a while. I like the product and it comes sanitized and pressurized ready to fill. One advantage is they are Sankey D coupler, if you go with Key Kegs they are a proprietary coupler but also a good product and available in 30L as well as 20L.

PubKeg has changed their model since we first started using them and I like the "pay per fill" type model they are using now better than just straight purchase like they were before (it's less money and you don't have to deal with deposits, getting the kegs back and then dealing with disposal)

They KeyKeg is closer to size on a standard 20L so if kegerator space or maximizing pallet load is a factor then this might offer an advantage.

Truly in my opinion they are both good solutions but they both offer some advantage/disadvantage so one will likely fit your business better than the other.

Cheers and welcome to Probrewer.

Jenrey
12-10-2014, 12:27 PM
I would recommend Petainer Kegs. They are a proven one way keg that sold over 4 Million kegs globally last year and offers customer service / support like no other. They are also happy to give samples and ensure customers are educated and informed on every aspect of the kegs.

In Canada you can inquire about the kegs at: www.petainer.ca
In USA you can inquire about the kegs at: www.petainer.com

Definitely proving to become the gold standard in one way PET kegs in the world.

Cheers!