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  • 3 Phase Pumps from China, Any advice on how to wire?

    We're getting close to hooking up our 10 Barrel brew house. Our tanks and brew platform have been custom made but we also snagged 3 of these pumps (See images). The local electricians refuse to wire them up because they are not CSA Approved. We have a control box from the same supplier with Variable Speed controls but I am in over my head. Anyone with any experience with these pumps? Using and/or wiring. Step A is to get them wired to our 3 phase power. step 2 is to get the variable speed working. Only single direction will be used for flow.

    Yes I know they are cheap, but we have 3 ready to go. I also have a north american portable brewery pump as a spare.


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    Leigh Davison
    Head Brewer, Partner & Beer Alchemist @ Schoolhouse Brewery
    Windsor, Nova Scotia
    "The Beer with Class"

  • #2
    Give me a call tomorrow and I will try to help you figure it out.

    Don
    Your CPE Systems Team!
    CPE Systems Inc.
    800-668-2268
    CPEsystems.com
    Thinkpumps.com
    sales@cpesystems.com

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    • #3
      Details....

      Your imagined sequence is putting the cart before the horse.
      If you are Implementing Frequency Drives that were specified for the motors in question, then you wire power to the speed controller and from that device you output to the motor, not the other way around.
      As thus, you have to verify first that both your Frequency Drives are rated for the Voltage and Phase you are going to supply to them, and the assigned motors are " meant " to and " rated " to run on the drives in question.
      If the drive and motors are matched and capable of running on your existing service supply voltage, then wiring them out is simple.
      With this said, the Input rating and Setup of the Drives are the most important matter.
      The nameplate on the Vertical unit is blurred and appears to be lacking critical infomation.
      The Y Series motor is mentioned on this webpage:


      I would contact Tech Support in ENGLISH and see how it goes if I was the installing Electrician after I had susssed out all Nameplates.
      110-190 is an odd usage and about as UnAmerican as it gets.
      Assuming your drive can run on 208V input, it should be possible to make it work.
      I do mean 208 not 240.

      I totally get why any self respecting Electricians would not want to touch this kind of thing.
      The extreme details on that matter I could write a volume on.

      I would look for a savvy Industrial Plant Engineer type person in your area proper for assistance.
      Warren Turner
      Industrial Engineering Technician
      HVACR-Electrical Systems Specialist
      Moab Brewery
      The Thought Police are Attempting to Suppress Free Speech and Sugar coat everything. This is both Cowardice and Treason given to their own kind.

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      • #4
        Thanks for your help guys. That makes more sense now that I think of it. The Motor and Pump are a pair and came with our control box. It seems I should consult the documentation on the control box right out of the gate as well. I have to get these pumps off site until our final electrical inspection and then I can get to work wiring them up. Thanks again, keep you guys posted. At least now I know what my home work is.
        Leigh Davison
        Head Brewer, Partner & Beer Alchemist @ Schoolhouse Brewery
        Windsor, Nova Scotia
        "The Beer with Class"

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        • #5
          Here are some images of the Drive controllers that came with these 3 pumps.

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          Leigh Davison
          Head Brewer, Partner & Beer Alchemist @ Schoolhouse Brewery
          Windsor, Nova Scotia
          "The Beer with Class"

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