Setting up my ferm cleaning system. It's a 3 bbl fermenter, what diameter hose should be connected to the barb on the cip arm leading to the ball? Also what power pump should I be looking at for this? Thanks
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What hose size and pump is ideal going into cip arm and through ball?
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Brewmaster, Minocqua Brewing Company
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Is there any reason not to use your nice infection-resistant crimped-end beer hose on CIP? I hear you that it seems like a waste to spend money making a hose infection-resistant when you're only ever gonna push CIP chemicals and sanitizer through it. But it's also only a matter of time before somebody inexperienced or just in a pinch decides "well, I gotta get this batch moved, and a hose is a hose is a hose" and uses the CIP hose for beer. One set of hoses for all applications seems like the most idiot-proof option (and, come on, once the eighth or ninth hour of that third ten- or twelve-hour day in a row rolls around, are any of us not idiots?), long as I'm not missing some reason you can't CIP with your beer hose.
Edit to say, if you're into spending time to save money, the system I currently use (not my choice, I'm just the assistant) is kanaflex with stainless triclamp hose barbs, held on with stainless T-bolt clamps. In order to fight obvious infection risks (we've found mold in the hose barbs when we've gotten lazy, just so you understand the fire you're playing with) we store them disassembled, sani and assemble the day before we use them, and break them down again if they're gonna be idle for more than a couple days or if it's been more than a week or so. Takes about 20 minutes to build or break down three hoses – even if you're not paying your cellar dweller very much at all, you can see it doesn't take too many cycles to eat those costs savings right up, this is only a solution for the severely and chronically undercapitalized.Last edited by feinbera; 08-23-2017, 10:00 AM.
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Yea I'm thinking , a 1 inch barb / w tri clamp with 1 inch id hose, and properly clean and sanitize each time (of course) ... question is -- what size pump would work if I decide to go with this hose setup to the cip ball? 1700$ id more thn I was expecting , tips?
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Your sprayballs are 1 inch tri-clamp, yeah? What do you use for your transfer hoses, from brewhouse to fermenting vessel or FV to bright tank? If you're using a chugger, how long are your knock out times???
Generally, you can use your transfer hoses for CIP and SIP, which makes a lot of sense because then your hoses are getting the same mechanical action as your vessels. You are most certainly going to want to use a portable centrifugal pump for cleaning a 3bbl fermenter or bright, otherwise you will not get the coverage nor mechanical cleaning action.
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Hoses from brewhouse to kettle are 1/2 inch id... spoke with system builder and they said to go with the chugger max for this which is 17gpm and 1/8 hp. I guess I'll go with that and the same 1/2 inch tubing unless anyone out there sees an obvious red flag? Thanks
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Originally posted by Beardown View PostHoses from brewhouse to kettle are 1/2 inch id... spoke with system builder and they said to go with the chugger max for this which is 17gpm and 1/8 hp. I guess I'll go with that and the same 1/2 inch tubing unless anyone out there sees an obvious red flag? Thanks
I am sure the Chugger Max is better, but a lot will depend on the length of hose, height of your tank, and the head pressure of the pump. I like to see a good 15psi through my CIP arm when cleaning to ensure a good physical spray in the tank. You won't regret erring on the larger side, especially if you upgrade to larger tanks in the future.
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Originally posted by Beardown View PostSetting up my ferm cleaning system. It's a 3 bbl fermenter, what diameter hose should be connected to the barb on the cip arm leading to the ball? Also what power pump should I be looking at for this? Thanks
Hope this helps.
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