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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emian
    I wonder what the FDA inspectors will say about stainless glycol lines immersed in your beer if you try this in a commercial setting?
    There is 2 types of glycol, ethylene and Propylene. Ethylene is toxic, the Propylene type is often called Food Grade Glycol which is safe for human consumption (at a reasonable level) and used in cosmetics and skin cream.

    So we absolutely need to buy the PG type otherwise a single leak in your FV will make your beer toxic which it something to avoid at all cost

    We are building a nano brewery as well. I will make sure my compression fittings are sitting outside the top portion of the plastic conical. In the event of a leak we will see it right away and it doesn't have a chance to run down the line in the FV.

    Cheers
    Cheers!
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    Mario Bourgeois
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    Casselman ON Canada

  2. #17
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    I'm trying to solve the same problem. I have 3bbl single shell fermenters.

    What do you think of welding one of these to the inside of a fermenter.

    http://morewinemaking.com/view_produ...45%22_x_315%22

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    3 bbl plastic conical cooling

    I used a 1/2 inch .035 wall stainless coil flared the fitting outside the fermenter with test batches so far works great. 20-30 gallons crashed to 35 deg running glycol @28. There is only 10 -15 feet of coil submerged due to the level. I only have 32 feet total coil. I will let you know when i ferment the full 3 bbl how i make out.
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    Hey!

    Just in our second commercial batch with plastic conicals and stainless steel coils to keep it at the right temp. We have 1x 50ft coil per tank with a temp probe on the side hook on a PID. Once the temp goes too high it close the contactor and starts the pump sitting hooked on an 80gal rain barrel in the walkin cooler.

    We are able to easily maintain 62F in a room at 72F.

    Pretty amazed at the performance. Sure I am looking forward at all stainless with a real chiller, it will do for now!
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    We also are in the process of adding SS coils that pull from a 4 BBL serving tank in the cold room to hold us over while we slowly changing them out with stainless FVs.

    Does anyone have a good method for making tank depot style FVs quasi air tight? We have siliconed under where there black rim is screwed into the tank and added a bung with blow off tube to the hole in the center of the lid. However, we are having trouble finding a good way to seal between the lid and the rim.

    Thanks,

    Justin

  6. #21
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    These tanks are made as you could not pressurise them.
    They are design that they can not take pressure.
    You would not want that your 4 BBL tank would raptured.

    They are still fine as a fermenters.

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    I do not want to pressurize the tank, I just would prefer the co2 and krausen to come out of the blow off tube instead of the rim around the lid.

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    I am working on setting up a similar system for my plastics. I didn't see mention of how people clean such a system, any thoughts? Just standard CIP ?

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    Hey BridgeBrewing!

    After transfer I immediately hose it down with 170F water, the most stubborn part is the rim where the krausen was sitting. Yeast is pretty sticky. I get most of it off with a straight stream then I take a very soft brush which I keep STRICTLY for my fermenters.

    When I start heating up the HLT on brewing day I run Saniclean in it with a rotating spray ball for an hour.

    I have one bulkhead ftting http://www.tank-depot.com/browse.aspx?id=2396 on each fermenter with a tri clamp to NPT male adapter which I had a TC elbow. INside the tank you can then screw in the rotating spray ball which is as well hooked on a tri clamp to NPT male adapter.

    Cheers
    Cheers!
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    Mario Bourgeois
    www.CasselBrewery.ca
    Casselman ON Canada

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    Quote Originally Posted by CasselBrewery
    Hey BridgeBrewing!

    After transfer I immediately hose it down with 170F water, the most stubborn part is the rim where the krausen was sitting. Yeast is pretty sticky. I get most of it off with a straight stream then I take a very soft brush which I keep STRICTLY for my fermenters.

    When I start heating up the HLT on brewing day I run Saniclean in it with a rotating spray ball for an hour.

    I have one bulkhead ftting http://www.tank-depot.com/browse.aspx?id=2396 on each fermenter with a tri clamp to NPT male adapter which I had a TC elbow. INside the tank you can then screw in the rotating spray ball which is as well hooked on a tri clamp to NPT male adapter.

    Cheers
    Thanks and congrats on the Opening! Any chance you could email me some pics of how you set up your fermenters peter_at_bridgebeer.ca ? How did you install the stainless coil and a temperature probe. Nervous about drilling holes in the fermenters

    Thanks again!

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    Thanks Peter! Congrats to you on building your brewery I will get pics to you today and other info such as the coils and also a video on how my system works.
    Cheers!
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    Mario Bourgeois
    www.CasselBrewery.ca
    Casselman ON Canada

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    Quote Originally Posted by CasselBrewery
    Thanks Peter! Congrats to you on building your brewery I will get pics to you today and other info such as the coils and also a video on how my system works.
    Thank you very much, can't wait to see your set up!
    Peter Burbridge
    Owner
    Bridge Brewing Company
    www.bridgebeer.ca

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    I use CIP head.

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    Morning all!

    Here is a video of our setup : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_E6a...ature=youtu.be

    Cheers
    Cheers!
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    Mario Bourgeois
    www.CasselBrewery.ca
    Casselman ON Canada

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    Thanks so much for posting this to the forum, Mario! Your video was very helpful.

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