Installing sloped floors - advice?

[Cascadia]

We're looking at installing sloped floors in our brewing area and cellar area. We're working with an architect who is cost estimating it out. The sloped floors are coming in way more than we expected - ~$30,000 just for 1600 ft of concrete work. The floor coating is another $9000 and the trench drain is probably another $7-8k. The floors are being installed in an area that has brand new, reinforced concrete. They're planning to dig up the existing floor and then re-lay the entire area.

Does anyone have experience in having similar work done? What kind of price did you pay per square foot? Has anyone sloped the floors by floating concrete on top of an existing floor? Is that a cheaper way to go? Any advice?

[dfalken]

We're looking at installing sloped floors in our brewing area and cellar area. We're working with an architect who is cost estimating it out. The sloped floors are coming in way more than we expected - ~$30,000 just for 1600 ft of concrete work. The floor coating is another $9000 and the trench drain is probably another $7-8k. The floors are being installed in an area that has brand new, reinforced concrete. They're planning to dig up the existing floor and then re-lay the entire area.

Does anyone have experience in having similar work done? What kind of price did you pay per square foot? Has anyone sloped the floors by floating concrete on top of an existing floor? Is that a cheaper way to go? Any advice?

Been living outside the US for a few years and have forgotten how insane prices are there. I will be paying $35 per sq meter for my reinforced 6 inch sloped concrete floors including the drains. That comes out to $3.27 per sq ft or $5200 for a floor of your size. I bet the coating probably adds another $1000.

[GlacierBrewing]

We're looking at installing sloped floors in our brewing area and cellar area. We're working with an architect who is cost estimating it out. The sloped floors are coming in way more than we expected - ~$30,000 just for 1600 ft of concrete work. The floor coating is another $9000 and the trench drain is probably another $7-8k. The floors are being installed in an area that has brand new, reinforced concrete. They're planning to dig up the existing floor and then re-lay the entire area.

Does anyone have experience in having similar work done? What kind of price did you pay per square foot? Has anyone sloped the floors by floating concrete on top of an existing floor? Is that a cheaper way to go? Any advice?

Those figures seem high to me. How much square footage are we talking about? Rule of thumb.....get a second quote.

Prost!
Dave

[ParishBrewingCo]

$30,000 just for 1600 ft of concrete work. The floor coating is another $9000 and the trench drain is probably another $7-8k.

This is super expensive. I just paid $2100 to have over 4,000 sqft sealed professionally.

[Cascadia]

It's for 1600 s.f. of floor space. We're in the phase of negotiating the lease and tenant improvements, so these are estimates from our architect, not actual bids. The overall estimate for the work puts us above our tenant improvement budget and I'm wondering if it the estimates are realistic.

[BrewinLou]

Why remove the existing floor?

[GlacierBrewing]

Why remove the existing floor?

I'm wondering that as well. We moved into our building (originally a racquet ball court), ripped up the wood floor and found a pristine concrete floor. We poured a sloped concrete floor complete with a room-length sloped trench drain. Saw no need to remove the existing (fully-cured!) concrete floor.
Also, back in my commercial remodel days, the "quotes/estimates" from the architects were always much higher than what the contractors gave.
....my two cents.

Prost!
Dave

[Cascadia]

The estimate for removing the exiting floor is $1600, which is the most cost effective part of the whole budget they provided. That gives you a blank canvas for laying the floors. I was thinking that floating a sloped layer on top of the exiting floor might be cheaper, but after running some numbers I don't think the material costs are that significantly different.

We're looking at about 30 cubic yards of concrete for a 6 inch slab. At $75 per cubic yard, material costs should be around $2250 for the concrete, plus I'm guessing less than $1000 for rebar. So I'm trying to figure out where the other $27,000 is going... Ugh.

[BrewinLou]

Just saying our whole brewery floor is poured on old concrete flooring with no problems for a decade and a half.