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Thread: Crown sizing

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    Crown sizing

    Picked up some beautiful 750 ml bottles that take 26 mm crowns. The crowns go on the bottles and look like a good fit but when we pasteurize the crowns shoot off like rockets. Anybody have a suggestion for finding the right crowns for these bottles? Incidentally, we don't have this problem with our 330 ml bottles and I checked with the bottle manufacturer thinking that maybe they sell crowns that are a more precise fit but that went nowhere.

    Thanks guys.

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    Cricket...cricket

    Guys - these are really sexy bottles that I'd love to use - any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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    Not sure the crowns are the problem. We bottled in a 750ml cork finished bottle that looked like it would take a crown...but they sell the same style in a different bottle that is cappable... Bottom Line...buy a corker....it's likely yours are cork finish bottles... ???

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    Crowns

    Its a bottle that accepts both crowns and corks. The beer is carbonated before bottling so a cork would not be an acceptable option.

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    As far as I know there is only one crown size. If there's another, we've certainly never stocked it. Are the bottles of U.S. manufacture?

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    Bottle maufacturer

    The bottle manufacturer is Wiegand Glas from Germany (I believe).

    Somebody mentioned to me that there are 26 mm caps that are a bit taller on the sides which should give a more thorough closure. Another supplier here gave me 26 mm Champagne crowns (yes crowns) to try but haven't gotten to it.

    Any other ideas?

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    it's our bottles….Dancing Camel…who’s your crown manufacturer?
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    Most beers in China have crowns that have 6.5mm skirts. So you could try get some samples from China.

    Most other crowns have 6mm skirts I think...
    Good Luck

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    Dancing Camel,

    we use that bottle. We are using cork and cages, but I have run them through my crowner with Astir crowns, and they seem to hold really well! What bottles do you normally crown? Perhaps the issue is with the crowning profile in your machine rather than the crown itself?

    Nat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natrat
    Dancing Camel,

    we use that bottle. We are using cork and cages, but I have run them through my crowner with Astir crowns, and they seem to hold really well! What bottles do you normally crown? Perhaps the issue is with the crowning profile in your machine rather than the crown itself?

    Nat
    i would be happy to send some crown samples to do a comparative test?

    Let me know...

    Frank

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    Astir Caps

    Hi Frank - thanks for the response. WE still haven't found a solution. Would be happy to try. How can I reach you?

    David

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    I think that Natrat may be on to something when questioning the capping machine. What kind of capper are you using? How do the caps look before pasteurization?

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    Capper

    Everything is still unfortunately done by hand. I would have agreed with you but for the fact that our 330's don't have this problem at all. Ever.

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    Are we talking pneumatic or muscle powered bench capper? Have you changed the bell in the capper lately? New cap supplier?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DancingCamel
    Hi Frank - thanks for the response. WE still haven't found a solution. Would be happy to try. How can I reach you?

    David
    Sorry for my late response, you can reach me at fhoytink@vitogiannis.com.

    Send me a mail and I will send you some samples.

    Cheers,

    Frank

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