llalemand Belle Saison

[Rooh]

Anybody tried this out yet, or know which brewery it came from? I currently use WLP 566, hoping this could be a suitable replacement.

Thanks, Rich DeLano
undercoveraleworksrich@gmail.com

[Capt. Bob]

I've been trying to source a 500gm packet, but nobody seems to have it available.

[Capt. Bob]

I'm bumping this thread...BUMP.

Has anyone tried this yet?

Seriously...anyone?
I'd like to but I'm cheap and would rather hear second hand.

[LaveryBrewing]

i was somehow sent a 500g sample but emailed Lallemand asking for some 20g packets so we could test them out before we try the big pitch..

No reply.
Good luck!

jason

[DPBCBrewer]

I have tried this yeast. Normally used a blend between Wyeast french and belgian. Always found that it fermented really fast in the early stages and then went super slow. (2 weeks to complete) This does not not economical sense and opens you to spoilage risks.
The belle saison on the other hand fermented really fast (1.043 down to 1.003 within 48 hrs) I have taken the approach to rather pitch a bit cooler next time as we pitched at 23 D Celsius and it reached 32 D Celsius. Not a problem but i want it to follow a more gradual curve. We still experimenting to find the best conditions (pack indicated 100g/100L but this is pretty high) for this yeast with regards to temp, inoculation rate, nutrition/oxygen)

Any comments welcome.

[AnthonyB]

Any sensory impressions of this yeast?

[crawfdan]

No personal experience but I saw that Williams Brewing did some tests with dry yeast, here is there notes for the Saison.

BELLE SAISION This new dry yeast from Lallemand proved to be a very authentic saision yeast, and fermented our 1.055 starting gravity saision wort down to an amazing 1.000. Flavor was very dry, peppery, with a touch of sourness; this is a very true to type saision yeast. We also fermented this wort with Wyeast 3711 French Saision as a control, and our tasters preferred this French Saision beer overall, as it had a milder and smoother character than the more extreme Belle Saision.

[Luch15]

We just did 3 small test batches this weekend with this yeast (available from BSG Handcraft in 11g sachets) I will follow up with tasting notes, etc. when beers are complete as well as our take on the comparison to the French Saison strain.

[Luch15]

Ok, update.

We brewed a couple different beers with this, we used our standard recipes and used this yeast instead of our standard. The taste panel feedback and the casual "hey what do you think of this saison" type tasting were surprisingly similar. The word used by two of the other brewers here was "flat" to describe the flavor profile of the beer. It seemed to have a subdued flavor as compared to BSI S-11. On a technical note the yeast floculated highly as compared to S-11 which doesn't floc at all. While there was nothing "wrong" with the beer it just seemed less flavorful overall as compared to S-11.

Hope this helps a bit.