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    what is your pump setup to send beer to the bowl

    I run 16 head cimec filler. Currently we use a fairly large diaphragm pump running air pressure about 42 psi. Over long runs the muffler starts to clog with ice and the pump performance decreases and comes to a halt at times. (we do have a air dryer on the compressor) I haven't been happy with the performance of the pump. Seem like something is always happening with it. Works fine with hot temps for washing or small volume filler runs but for large cold volumes it just doesn't seem to work well.

    We have a fairly long run with about 12 feet of lift to the filler therefore the pump and not only co2 pushing from the brite is needed. We also find running our bowl pressures 35 to 38 psi work the best in terms of fills and fobbing.

    We would like to move away from the diaphragm pump to something that will work better

    Would anyone be willing to information on their setup for pushing beer to the bowl?
    Trent
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    we use air pumps alot. Our ferments run for 30 hours with the airpumps going and they do not ice up. You may want to check out a better air dryer. We just got our filler (cimec 12/1) in the process of setting up. It came with a variable speed drive centrifugal pump. The brewery we got it from says they like the air pump over the electric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NolaMike View Post
    we use air pumps alot. Our ferments run for 30 hours with the airpumps going and they do not ice up. You may want to check out a better air dryer. We just got our filler (cimec 12/1) in the process of setting up. It came with a variable speed drive centrifugal pump. The brewery we got it from says they like the air pump over the electric.
    What brand and size are you running?
    Trent
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    Quote Originally Posted by sopbeer View Post
    I run 16 head cimec filler. Currently we use a fairly large diaphragm pump running air pressure about 42 psi. Over long runs the muffler starts to clog with ice and the pump performance decreases and comes to a halt at times. (we do have a air dryer on the compressor) I haven't been happy with the performance of the pump. Seem like something is always happening with it. Works fine with hot temps for washing or small volume filler runs but for large cold volumes it just doesn't seem to work well.

    Did you mean " an " air drier?
    We have a fairly long run with about 12 feet of lift to the filler therefore the pump and not only co2 pushing from the brite is needed. We also find running our bowl pressures 35 to 38 psi work the best in terms of fills and fobbing.

    We would like to move away from the diaphragm pump to something that will work better

    Would anyone be willing to information on their setup for pushing beer to the bowl?

    First thing take the muffler off that unit. They do not work in that type of environment, will contaminate quickly, restrict and effectively stall the performance of the pump seriously.
    Port the exhaust down and pipe at least 8 or 10 inches with one 90 degree turn. Look at one problem at a time. That type of pump is widely used and with high success on that application. Your air drier has to be sized right and also has to be doing the job, and depending on your region you need filter separators ahead of your air loads. Your air distribution piping cannot be undersized for the SCFM needed at your loads. Your diaphragm pump has to be sized correctly as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starcat View Post
    First thing take the muffler off that unit. They do not work in that type of environment, will contaminate quickly, restrict and effectively stall the performance of the pump seriously.
    Port the exhaust down and pipe at least 8 or 10 inches with one 90 degree turn. Look at one problem at a time. That type of pump is widely used and with high success on that application. Your air drier has to be sized right and also has to be doing the job, and depending on your region you need filter separators ahead of your air loads. Your air distribution piping cannot be undersized for the SCFM needed at your loads. Your diaphragm pump has to be sized correctly as well.

    Star
    Thank you, we have been running without the muffler and that has solved most of our problems. The pump is probably oversized but it seems to work without the muffler restriction. One problem we found is that he muffler is positioned right under the pump out port, therefore it is constantly getting wet from removal of the hoses. Also with the cold of the beer running through the pump the parts constrict and don't want to run freely. We have absolutely no issue with running hot or warm liquids through the pump with muffler restriction. The cold really seems to affect it more than anything.

    We run an all flow SPX series 2 inch. Probably oversized for our needs.
    Trent
    Shades of Pale
    Park City UT

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