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brewingnewbie
09-23-2008, 12:01 PM
anyone ever come across a nice chart or table that has recommended CO2 levels for different styles of beer?

MatthewS
09-23-2008, 04:46 PM
ALES: -- CO2 VOLUMES
Barley Wine:
" Barley Wine -- 1.3 to 2.3

Belgian Specialty:
" Flanders Brown -- 1.9 to 2.5
" Dubbel -- 1.9 to 2.4
" Trippel -- 1.9 to 2.4
" Belgian Ale -- 1.9 to 2.5
" Belgian Strong Ale -- 1.9 to 2.4
" White -- 2.1 to 2.6
" Lambic Gueuze -- 3.0 to 4.5
" Lambic Faro -- ?
" Lambic Fruit -- 2.6 to 4.5

English Bitter:
" English Ordinary -- 0.75 to 1.3
" English Special -- 0.75 to 1.3
" English Extra Special -- 0.75 to 1.3

Scottish Ale:
" Scottish Light -- 0.75 to 1.3
" Scottish Heavy -- 0.75 to 1.3
" Scottish Export -- 0.75 to 1.3

Pale Ale:
" Classic English Pale Ale -- 1.5 to 2.3
" India Pale Ale -- 1.5 to 2.3
" American Style Pale Ale -- 2.26 to 2.78

English & Scottish Strong Ale:
" English Old Ale / Strong Ale -- 1.5 to 2.3
" Strong Scotch Ale -- 1.5 to 2.3

Brown Ale:
" English Brown Ale -- 1.5 to 2.3
" English Mild Ale -- 1.3 to 2.0
" American Brown Ale -- 1.5 to 2.5

Porter:
" Robust Porter -- 1.8 to 2.5
" Brown Porter -- 1.7 to 2.5

Stout:
" Classic Dry Irish -- 1.6 to 2.0
" Foreign Style -- 2.3 to 2.6
" Sweet Stout -- 2.0 to 2.4
" Imperial Stout -- 1.5 tp 2.3

LAGERS:
Bock:
" Traditional German Dark -- 2.2 to 2.7
" Helles Bock -- 2.16 to 2.73
" Doppelbock -- 2.26 to 2.62
" Eisbock -- 2.37

Bavarian Dark:
" Munich Dunkel -- 2.21 to 2.66
" Schwarzbier -- 2.2 to 2.6

American Dark:
" American Dark -- 2.5 to 2.7

Dortmund/Export:
" Dortmund/Export -- 2.57

Munich Helles:
" Munich Helles -- 2.26 to 2.68

Classic Pilsener:
" German Pilsener -- 2.52
" Bohemian Pilsener -- 2.3 to 2.5

American Light Lager:
" Diet/"Lite" -- 2.57
" American Standard -- 2.57
" American Premium -- 2.57 to 2.73
" Dry -- 2.6 to 2.7

Vienna/Oktoberfest/Marzen:
" Vienna -- 2.4 to 2.6
" Oktoberfest/Marzen -- 2.57 to 2.73

MIXED STYLE:
German Ale:
" Dusseldorf-style Altbier -- 2.16 to 3.09
" Kolsch -- 2.42 to 2.73

Cream Ale:
" Cream Ale -- 2.6 to 2.7

Fruit Beer:
" Fruit Ale or Lager -- varies

Herb Beer:
" Herb Ale or Lager -- varies

American Wheat:
" American Wheat Beer -- 2.3 to 2.6

Specialty Beers:
" Ales or Lagers -- varies

Smoked Beer:
" Bamberg-style Rauchbier -- 2.16 to 2.57
" Other styles -- ?

California Common;
" California Common Beer -- 2.4 to 2.8

German Wheat Beer:
" Berliner Weisse -- 3.45
" German-style Weizen (Weissbier) -- 3.6 to 4.48
" German-style Dunkelweizen -- 3.6 to 4.48
" German-style Weizenbock -- 3.71 to 4.74

brewingnewbie
09-23-2008, 05:33 PM
thats the same results i pulled up a little bit ago. thanks.

we were just discussing and tasting some german pils and belgian tripel and thought that those numbers seemed a little low.?.

whats your thought on german pilsner and tripel carbonation?
i wanna say i've had more pils and trips on the high side of those ranges.

Frozenapple
09-24-2008, 04:35 AM
Ever had a real ale ice cold? Flat as a tac. But, warm it up a bit, and it comes to life. Same with most styles of beer. However, some beers need to be served a little colder than others. It sorta sounds like you're comparing apples with oranges. Pilsner & Belgial Tripel deserve to be treated differently - temperature & carbonation wise that is. A bit cooler for the pils & a little (perhaps) more carbonated, and a liitle warmer and perhaps the same carbn. as the pils (or a little less) for the Belgian.

Hope that all made sense.

Cheers,

Matt

jwalts
09-24-2008, 07:06 AM
I'd take those numbers with a grain of salt. Brew Like a Monk claims that all of the trappist-ish ales are above 3 volumes, with Duvel being 4.25 and Orval being 5. Even an ice cold Duvel will foam like crazy. The 0.75 volumes listed at the low end of cask ales is about what you would see in a closed fermenter at atmospheric pressure (entirely CO2 in the headspace) - I could see that being true after a cask has been served for a while, but not as a level that's targeted by a brewer.

I'm wondering if there's more than one unit called "volumes of CO2". I have a chart from a gas blender manufacturer that claims Guinness is served at 1.2 volumes of CO2. I might believe that number on its own, but the chart shows it happening at 24.5 psi with 70% nitrogen at 38 degf. Those conditions should give closer to 2.1 volumes of CO2 as I understand the unit.

Joe

edm1077
09-24-2008, 04:04 PM
I will agree those two styles do seem a bit low, but I would say around 2.7 for a Pils and in the 3's for triples. That is at least my experience