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    I am running a 16HL finished volume brewpub where we use wy 2565 Kolsch yeast for our flag ship beer and I want to try and get the clarification time down.

    Currently I cold crash to 0(32) and let it sit for 2 days, the rack it into the conditioning tank injecting biofine clear inline at a dosing rate of 1.25mL/L. This process usually takes 5 weeks to clarify and because we are starting to sell more beer through our taps and now through a small canning line, this is too slow. I have started to inject a further 1L of biofine in through the sample cock and bubbling co2 through for about 20 seconds a week or two before it needs to go on tap, but this means I am using 3L of finings for each batch of Kolsch.

    I have seen some posts about brewers getting low floccing lager yeasts to drop out in what seems like absurdly short times (48-72 hours) by bubbling co2 through the racking arm after adding biofine, but has any one tried this technique with wy 2565?

    I don't use uni-tanks, I have flat bottom bright tanks with up stands, so I was thinking of bubbling co2 through the up stand instead to try and get the fining to mix more thoroughly. I will let you know how that experiment works out, but if anyone has any other suggestions to try and get my clarification times down that would be appreciated, other wise i might have to start looking into a filter.

  • #2
    Have you tried gelatin or isinglass? Also, filtration is common when making kölsch

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    • #3
      Originally posted by LongLiveLagers View Post
      Have you tried gelatin or isinglass? Also, filtration is common when making kölsch
      True, but I am trying to avoid filtration if I can. My brewery has limited floor space and the plate and frame filter necessary for what I need would take up what little space I have left.

      I have not tried Isinglass on this yeast yet, but that is an option yes. Biofine is just easier to work with than Isinglass, so if I can keep it I would prefer to do that.

      Thanks for the advice

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      • #4
        We tried biofine clear in our alt that uses 2565, and it made it worse! Typically we see total clarity after a week in brite. If a plate and frame is too bulky, consider a lenticular from Pall.

        Make sure you've got plenty of calcium. That's the biggest driver we've seen with this yeast.
        Mike Elliott
        Head Brewer
        Philipsburg Brewing Co.
        Montana

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        • #5
          Ah 2565, you magnificent, cloudy, acidic, unflocculant bastard, know that I love you.

          Recently we've had poor results with biofine at 75ml/bbl. Might switch back to gelatin. But the real answer is our filter, which I don't really think there's a way around it, beyond weeks and weeks of lagering, if you want a crystal clear Kolsch.

          And boy my eye gets all twitchy when I go somewhere and they serve me a cloudy "Kolsch".
          Russell Everett
          Co-Founder / Head Brewer
          Bainbridge Island Brewing
          Bainbridge Island, WA

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mike Elliott View Post
            We tried biofine clear in our alt that uses 2565, and it made it worse! Typically we see total clarity after a week in brite. If a plate and frame is too bulky, consider a lenticular from Pall.

            Make sure you've got plenty of calcium. That's the biggest driver we've seen with this yeast.
            Are you just using Isinglass for your filtration?

            I have been talking to pall as well, but I would like to avoid costly equipment purchases until i have exhausted all other option.

            Cheers,

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            • #7
              No isinglass. We like to tell people we're vegan... Weird for Montanans, but no one's had a beef with it yet. See what I did there?
              Mike Elliott
              Head Brewer
              Philipsburg Brewing Co.
              Montana

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