Hey all,
We're running our numbers on potential options for our space. Right now, we're looking at ~ 1,500 sf, a 7 bbl frankenbrew setup, tasting room and no distribution, and serving most everything from single wall tanks in our cold room (hoping for 5 -7 taps, with a few of these potentially served with kegs from small batches or remains from other serving tanks). Total cost estimates with contingencies are currently in the $150K - $175K range, which includes several facilities costs such as ventilation, ADA bathroom upgrades, floor drains, cold room, etc. This would be in an industrial area with rents in the ~$12 psf range, NNN, and these numbers are about as bare bones as we can get and still produce quality beer.
An issue that keeps coming up in our discussions is whether it would be cheaper to do this in a nano-type setup. My thinking is that, while the initial system cost may be cheaper, the facilities costs are basically the same, especially assuming you need to sell everything you make over the bar to even make it work. That said, I'm seeing a lot of nano owners posting in various forums about opening for numbers in the $50K range or less. My question to you nano owners (and others out there), is how are you guys getting the doors open so inexpensively? Are you guys just foregoing these facility improvements, or are you finding creative ways around some of these issues that I'm not thinking of? I would love to hear how you guys have made your spaces work for you in cost effective ways. For instance, did you forego floor drains and/or ventilation? Did you not need to make any plumbing or electrical changes? Inquiring minds need to know...!
Thanks,
KTB
We're running our numbers on potential options for our space. Right now, we're looking at ~ 1,500 sf, a 7 bbl frankenbrew setup, tasting room and no distribution, and serving most everything from single wall tanks in our cold room (hoping for 5 -7 taps, with a few of these potentially served with kegs from small batches or remains from other serving tanks). Total cost estimates with contingencies are currently in the $150K - $175K range, which includes several facilities costs such as ventilation, ADA bathroom upgrades, floor drains, cold room, etc. This would be in an industrial area with rents in the ~$12 psf range, NNN, and these numbers are about as bare bones as we can get and still produce quality beer.
An issue that keeps coming up in our discussions is whether it would be cheaper to do this in a nano-type setup. My thinking is that, while the initial system cost may be cheaper, the facilities costs are basically the same, especially assuming you need to sell everything you make over the bar to even make it work. That said, I'm seeing a lot of nano owners posting in various forums about opening for numbers in the $50K range or less. My question to you nano owners (and others out there), is how are you guys getting the doors open so inexpensively? Are you guys just foregoing these facility improvements, or are you finding creative ways around some of these issues that I'm not thinking of? I would love to hear how you guys have made your spaces work for you in cost effective ways. For instance, did you forego floor drains and/or ventilation? Did you not need to make any plumbing or electrical changes? Inquiring minds need to know...!
Thanks,
KTB
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