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    Im wondering if this would be approved.. i have a concrete loading dock just outside my bay door. What if i wanted to brew outside to avoid installing an expensive hood system? Am I crazy?

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    I do not think it will pass food inspection.

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    • #3
      Thanks for the reply thirsty monk. What do you mean by food inspection? Im not serving food and i don't need to be inspected by the health department.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by dendron8 View Post
        Thanks for the reply thirsty monk. What do you mean by food inspection? Im not serving food and i don't need to be inspected by the health department.
        Breweries in your state aren't regulated by the state/county/city Health Department? Ours sure are. I can't imagine any local authorities signing off on brewing on your loading dock.
        Last edited by TonyT; 11-06-2019, 03:00 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by dendron8 View Post
          Thanks for the reply thirsty monk. What do you mean by food inspection? Im not serving food and i don't need to be inspected by the health department.
          Brewery is after all a food business. You will be govern/ regulated by state Agriculture dept or by county Health dept. This is on top of all TTB/state alcohol permits.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by TonyT View Post
            Breweries in your state aren't regulated by the state/county/city Health Department? Ours sure are.
            Interesting... I've never heard of a health department inspecting a brewery but I guess I only have experience in a few states.
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            • #7
              I am in north Carolina. As far as i know, and have read in the requirements, breweries are exempt from health department requirements. I just got off the phone with them last week asking about washing glasses and they said as long as I'm not serving food, breweries are not required to follow health code policies, including the temperature/ procedure for drinking glasses.

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              • #8
                Its very dependent on your county health department. I would say that in general, the TTB would not sign off on a brewery that was outdoors. You would need it to be at least having a roof overhead and a way to secure access to it, known requirements by the TTB for any tanks outside, you have to be able to secure it from people introducing contaminants, or stealing beer from it. As far as the health department is concerned, some try to meddle in your business and some dont. Ours didnt want to even see drawings. Nearby, they want to be all up in your shiz.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jebzter View Post
                  Its very dependent on your county health department. I would say that in general, the TTB would not sign off on a brewery that was outdoors. You would need it to be at least having a roof overhead and a way to secure access to it, known requirements by the TTB for any tanks outside, you have to be able to secure it from people introducing contaminants, or stealing beer from it. As far as the health department is concerned, some try to meddle in your business and some dont. Ours didnt want to even see drawings. Nearby, they want to be all up in your shiz.
                  I am only suggesting the boil be outside. Everything else inside.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by dendron8 View Post
                    I am only suggesting the boil be outside. Everything else inside.
                    I assume you're trying to avoid piercing the roof/wall to vent the kettle? You mentioned an exhaust hood, which might be nice to have in your climate but definitely isn't necessary. It just seems to me like this is a solution in search of a problem.
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                    • #11
                      Yes i am trying to avoid the expense and hassle of installing a vent hood system. What do you mean it isn't necessary? Is there a code or something you are referring to?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by dendron8 View Post
                        Yes i am trying to avoid the expense and hassle of installing a vent hood system. What do you mean it isn't necessary? Is there a code or something you are referring to?
                        May be you should contact your building inspectors what is required for you in your municipality.

                        Do not look for legal advice from this forum.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dendron8 View Post
                          Yes i am trying to avoid the expense and hassle of installing a vent hood system. What do you mean it isn't necessary? Is there a code or something you are referring to?
                          Just speaking to the technical side. Like Leos says, your local/state regulations will ultimately dictate what you can and can't do.

                          The only brewery I've been in that used an exhaust hood was a nano that moved into an existing commercial kitchen where using the existing utilities was their best option. More typically you'd just vent the kettle stack.
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                          • #14
                            Ah that's what i was missing. I was mistakenly combining ventilation and powered exhaust. I think you are saying there's mostly no need for the latter but almost guaranteed I'll need the former..?

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                            • #15
                              You will have to vent your combustion gasses and the steam from your kettle. They make condensers for the steam, so generally, you only need to have a flue for the combustion gas since you can use a condenser to deal with the steam. The type of flue will be determined by your mechanical code. If you have open burners like on a homebrew set up, that would be the only time that a captive hood would be required in most cases.

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