DIY keg washer pump sizing???

[augiedoggy]

been using mine... more than powerful enough to clean 3 kegs at a time. in fact I still have to throttle it down.

[Automatic12pro]

Thought I'd post an update. The Keg washer works great but I wanted to share a 3D model of the cart I plan to weld for it.

https://www.tinkercad.com/things/50GrnE8oLHE-kw-design

This link will take you to the tinkercad project I designed it in. You'll need to create a free account to copy and edit it.

[HogMountain]

Any feed back on these pumps?

Chris

No from me. Mine is still in the box. Maybe augiedoggy can give some feedback.

[Noble31]

Mine arrived yesterday. At least it is packed well. I won't know how it performs for a while. The pump head probably needs to be passivated after cleaning it.

Any feed back on these pumps?

Chris

[Noble31]

I was looking at the Velocio for a keg washer but i dont have the time to sit down and program it myself. Would you be willing to sell a copy of your script with a bit of documentation on your cabinet, PLC and the HMI?

Chris

[augiedoggy]

Anyone see a problem in using same pump in brewhouse and keg washing?

It is open impeller mobile pump with VFD (1.5 kW, 5 m3/h, 24m) that is used for mashing in, sparging and transfer BK-HX-FV.
I'd like to take advantage of mobility and give it another purpose with saving some funds, but I'm not sure if that could be problem due to hard chemical treatment in keg washing or something else... on the other hand we use same chemicals at MLT or BK CIP so I feel lost at the moment.. or I am over-complicating it?

If your speaking of the one in the pictures of this thread, I am hoping to use mine for whirlpool and CIP/kegwashing.

I found that I needed to upgrade the inlet hose to 1.5" ID brewery grade hose otherwise I got cavitation pretty bad with the 1" ID continental hose.
I tore mine down to the basic components and made sure I could get replacements parts for everything which I found cheap on ebay (A UL listed frame motor would cost me a couple hundred bucks if I ever had to replace it and thats by far the most costly component)
everything in the pump housing is stainless or EDPM rubber except the ceramic or carbon pump seal (either are available for like $4)

[Automatic12pro]

Anyone see a problem in using same pump in brewhouse and keg washing?

It is open impeller mobile pump with VFD (1.5 kW, 5 m3/h, 24m) that is used for mashing in, sparging and transfer BK-HX-FV.
I'd like to take advantage of mobility and give it another purpose with saving some funds, but I'm not sure if that could be problem due to hard chemical treatment in keg washing or something else... on the other hand we use same chemicals at MLT or BK CIP so I feel lost at the moment.. or I am over-complicating it?

I'm no expert but I believe as long as the seals are rated for the chemicals, you should be ok. Ask the manufacturer if they're still around, but makes sense to me that it would work.

[dark_s]

Anyone see a problem in using same pump in brewhouse and keg washing?

It is open impeller mobile pump with VFD (1.5 kW, 5 m3/h, 24m) that is used for mashing in, sparging and transfer BK-HX-FV.
I'd like to take advantage of mobility and give it another purpose with saving some funds, but I'm not sure if that could be problem due to hard chemical treatment in keg washing or something else... on the other hand we use same chemicals at MLT or BK CIP so I feel lost at the moment.. or I am over-complicating it?

[augiedoggy]

Made some more progress... painted the frame, connected all of the pneumatics, wired most of it, and mounted the control box. Just have to mount some buttons, HMI, and drill some holes in an old three-bay sink. [ATTACH]63941[/ATTACH][ATTACH]63942[/ATTACH][ATTACH]63943[/ATTACH][ATTACH]63944[/ATTACH]

very nice!

[Automatic12pro]

Made some more progress... painted the frame, connected all of the pneumatics, wired most of it, and mounted the control box. Just have to mount some buttons, HMI, and drill some holes in an old three-bay sink.

[Automatic12pro]

That's actually how I plan to hook my keg washer! Originally I was going to make this monstrous keg washer with tanks but now I'm just building a mobile cart that hooks up to an old 3 bay sink. I'll fill the three bays with water, sani, and caustic. Hook up my intake to the sink drain and recirculate back into the sani and caustic bays to recycle. When its not in use I can use it as a normal sink. Also makes the footprint of the kegwasher way less. 20"X48".

[augiedoggy]

When something comes in a wooden box, you just feel better about it. Kinda like a large leg lamp. The box/crate did not say fra-gee-lee so it has to be a heavy duty pump, right?

lol, nice..

[HogMountain]

I don't know if any of you guys watch HarryBrew69 on youtube, but check out this video. At about 1:15 you see his simple cask cleaning setup. I imagine the same thing can be done using a 3 compartment stainless sink and 2-3 of these $300 ebay pumps. You would not need the CIP balls for regular kegs. For just over a $1.2k you would have a powerful, manual keg washer and could clean/rinse/sanitize more 3 kegs simultaneously (keg 1 cleaning/keg 2 rinsing/keg 3 sanitizing). It sounds simple but I'm sure there is a flaw there somewhere...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCKonS-wN7A

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Three-3-Compartment-Stainless-Steel-Commercial-Kitchen-Bar-Sink/371326235966

[Automatic12pro]

Here's mine Just started building the frame for the keg washer last night.

[HogMountain]

looks just mine except I have the model with the handle and switch on wheels.

When something comes in a wooden box, you just feel better about it. Kinda like a large leg lamp. The box/crate did not say fra-gee-lee so it has to be a heavy duty pump, right?