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    Looking for some keg cleaning advice. We have an ABE Keg Commander. It has 2 reservoirs with one reserved for sani. Weíve tried both 5 Star Liquid Caustic Cleaner (1 gal in 25 gal of water) at 170 degrees, and also (per 5 Stars advice) Acid 6 around 140 degrees (1.5 Liters in 25 gallons). We run a low wash cycle of up to 2 minutes, and a high wash cycle of up to 4 minutes. Kegs are not cleaning to our expectation, with many of the spears having a yeast-like film near the bottom of the spear. Rinsing is with cold tap water at around 75 PSI. We feel like we need a better chemical. The low wash cycle is slowly running the chemical down the spear for 2 minutes, but it isnít cleaning. To test the theory, I put the spear directly in the reservoir for 2 minutes, then ran it under tap water. Same result, still dirty. This tells me it is a chemical problem. What are folks using successfully for chemicals? Iíd ideally like to hear from ABE customers, but honestly Iím sure itís the same with any system. The system seems to function 100% perfectly so I really donít think itís a machine issue. Thank you in advance. I canít continue to pull every spear out and manually clean by hand.
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    Try using an MSA based cleaner to remove beer stone and biofilm . Running it at a 1% solution acid strength will supply the correct amount of acid plus itís one of the only acids that can be blended with Surfactants there by removing organic debris as well as scale.


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      Keg washing

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      Steve Bradt
      Regional Sales Manager
      Micro-Matic Packaging Division
      Eastern United States and Canada
      sbradt@micro-matic.com
      785-766-1921

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        You can contact me at bscott@rochestermidland.com


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        • #5
          It looks as though you are simply not wetting this part of the spear in spite of having low flow periods. This is why the more recent keg washing systems from the big boys, GEA and undoubtedly Micromatic amongst others now have different speed flows during the delivery cycle to ensure you get some decent wettage of all parts of the keg, including the spear. Looking at the rest of the spear, it appears to be clean, so the majority is getting wetted. Your cleaning chemicals look to be OK.

          On the chemical front, consider using something other than caustic particularly if you don't have adequate initial air purging of the keg. Lt's say you have a 30 litre keg full of CO2, this will turn nearly 3 litres of 2% caustic to bicarbonate, so after a few kegs with a small reservoir you will have almost completely ineffective detergent.

          One of the problems with old keg washers, homemade keg washers or cheap commercial ones.

          I suspect you have had similar but more detailed responses, with resolutions to this problem from Bob and sbradt.

          But I stuck my nose in because their responses don't give any general guidance to anyone else who is in a similar situation.
          Last edited by dick murton; 03-29-2020, 11:01 AM. Reason: Added comment about caustic degradation
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