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  1. #46
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    Can anyone else comment on what they're using for labeling along with the meheen? What have you learned over the years? What would you like to change about the way you label?


    evan

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    Quote Originally Posted by evan
    Can anyone else comment on what they're using for labeling along with the meheen? What have you learned over the years? What would you like to change about the way you label?


    evan
    We're using an older ELF labeler, self-adhesive label on a spool. Needs constant reassurance and adjustment but once dialed in, works great. We label prior to filling. Learned how important it is to let your label supplier know which way you want the labels wound on the roll.
    I'm wondering if anyone is label with self-adhesives AFTER filling and, if so, who is your label supplier/what kind of adhesive is on the labels?


    Dave

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    Labeling after filling

    We label after we fill on our Meheen, we have a bottle rinser about 4 rows after the capper and then have built a bottle dryer that fits on our Generic Ruby model pressure senistive labeler. The labeler requires lots of TLC but we have modified it to run well and when it is running, it all runs great. I dont know what adhesive is on the labels but it works well. We get our labels from
    Atlas Labels and packaging I am sure Jack Wright of Atlas could tell you what is on them

    Fred Colby
    laughing Dog Brewing

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    Hey Fred,
    Don't you have any issues with the label not sticking to a cold, wet bottle?
    dave

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    No not really they are warmed up some and dried off just as they get labels
    we built the dryer out of PVC pipe and a cattle dryer that has so much force it rips the water from the bottles. if you want pictures i can get them to you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laughing Dog
    if you want pictures i can get them to you
    Hi Fred. Your bottle drier sounds interesting. I'm interested in seeing pictures. What is a cattle drier?

    Incidentally, we use a World Tandem labeller that labels as the bottles come off the Meheen.

    Cheers!
    -Neil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laughing Dog
    No not really they are warmed up some and dried off just as they get labels
    we built the dryer out of PVC pipe and a cattle dryer that has so much force it rips the water from the bottles. if you want pictures i can get them to you
    Hi Fred,
    Yes, I definately would love to see pictures of this gadget. You can send 'em to info@glacierbrewing.com.

    Thanks

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    Home made Bottle Dryer for Meheen

    ok here is our bottle dryer it took about 8 different configs to get it right but now it works like a champ the black cannister is the power behind the dryer it came from Sullivan supply and is a livestock or cattle dryer.

    Fred Colby
    Laughing Dog Brewing
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    beer wasted

    How much beer do you guys lose to foam from the Meheen? No matter how well we fine-tune the machine, we end up losing about 15-20 gallons of beer, in a 20 bbl run, as foam in the off-gas tubes. That's about 5% loss. We have the older capacitance-sensor system to detect the fill height. I'm trying to think of something acceptable to do with this beer. Do you think it would affect my beer to add it back into the kettle of the same beer being brewed that day? The beer would be boiled again, but I'm worried of oxidized flavors.
    Linus Hall
    Yazoo Brewing
    Nashville, TN
    [url]www.yazoobrew.com[/url]

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    Don't be too Maheen

    That sounds like a lot of loss Linus. Sounds about like twice as much as we lose. Last time we used a bucket to catch the blow off it was about 10-15 gallons on a 30 bbl run. I hate seeing all that beer go down the drain but I would be very hesistant to try to use it. I have tossed around the idea of filling a cornelius keg with it and force carbonating asap after bottling and letting it sit for a week to see how oxidized it tastes. My guess is very oxidized. Good luck
    Joel Halbleib
    COO / Zymurgist
    Goodwood Brewing Co
    636 East Main St
    Louisville, KY
    goodwood.beer

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    Well, we found a creative home for all that blow-off beer. I catch it in corny kegs, and give it to a local pizzaria to use in their pizza dough. He's put a big note about our partnership on the menus, so we get some promotion out of it and it doesn't hurt to have the same beer on tap as well.
    Linus Hall
    Yazoo Brewing
    Nashville, TN
    [url]www.yazoobrew.com[/url]

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    Quote Originally Posted by lhall
    Well, we found a creative home for all that blow-off beer. I catch it in corny kegs, and give it to a local pizzaria to use in their pizza dough. He's put a big note about our partnership on the menus, so we get some promotion out of it and it doesn't hurt to have the same beer on tap as well.
    Good job finding a home for the waste.
    Cheers & I'm out!
    David R. Pierce
    NABC & Bank Street Brewhouse
    POB 343
    New Albany, IN 47151

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    Trying to find a used machine

    We are a small craft brewery in England (www.lovibonds.com) moving into bottling from keg/firkin only, think that the Meheen is the machine for us, as with all craft brewerys money is tight and we are trying to find a 4 head machine. Any of you guys have a spare in your store room or know where one is sitting around doing nothing?

    Thanks, Jason.

    Jason Stevenson
    Operations & Logistics
    Lovibonds Brewery Ltd
    Henley-On-Thames
    +44 7743 806626

  14. #59
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    Hey guys i'm new to this forum and seen this thread on the Maheen. We have a 3 year old 6 head maheen that runs pretty good most of the time. We run it 2 or 3 times a week getting aprox. 60-80 cases a hour. We are interested in putting a labeler eather before or after filling. We end up wasting a couple of cases a run of labeled bottels each run, and really like the set up Laughing Dog has. Can you give me some more info on the labeler, conveyer, drier, etc? I really like the idea of labeling after filling for the fact that we wouldn't be wasting labeled bottles due to foamers or short fills. We use pressure sens. labels on a roll.
    I have modified the maheen with a bar on the feedin side to keep the bottles straight eliminating missfeeds. We also use silicone on the surface to help with this also. I can post some pics of this tomorrow.

  15. #60
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    We run 2 new Maheens, both 6 head. The 12oz machine runs about 80 cases/hr which is about the same as the 12yr old one we sold recently. The new one has a pre-evac cycle (and a double evac if you want). The 22oz runs about 100 cases/hr and could go faster if we could keep up. The old 22oz runs about 30cs/hr. We haven't sold that one yet.

    I've run 5 different Maheens overall and always had a few problems with indexing. Often the side rails need to be adjusted. Sometimes the bottles are just irregular in size and shape and mess things up. Once the machine had just lost its calibration the air to the indexer and had to be adjusted.

    Whatever the case, I can't stress enough you need to wear eye protection.

    We have had some problems with the snift valve and CO2 valve sticking (once both failed at the same time and left us chasing the problems for a week!). If you get foaming there are lots of reasons for it, many of which are the beer, some are the machine.

    Overall I think these are good machines but they do need some love.
    Jon Hill
    Atlantic Brewing Co
    Bar Harbor,ME
    eatdrinkandbemerry
    Jon Hill, Brewer
    Atlantic Brewing Co
    jon at atlanticbrewing dot com

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