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  • #16
    I have done it both ways and found that extract was by far the easier and more economical way as well I was better able to get that exact flavor I was looking for as if you miss your mark you can always add prior to package/serving.

    Of course then there is the problem with beans of a bag breaking and you find yourself sitting on the floor of your brewhouse pulling apart a heat exchanger looking for bean parts...

    When I used beans I started with 6 per bbl and found that it was just shy of the flavor/aroma I was looking for.

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    • #17
      Well, I couldn't stop the bean order in time, so I have a pound of them sitting in my walk-in. I'm just going to chop the hell out of them and add them when I start my VDK rest. We'll see what happens.

      Rob
      "By man's sweat and God's love, beer came into the world" -- St. Arnold of Metz

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      • #18
        Try these guys. They import the beans and are the cheapest I've found in the US for madagascar beans....we buy by the pound. my last order was like $70 for an entire pound!


        Nielsen Massy Vanillas
        1550 Shields Dr Waukgan IL 60085

        800-525-pure
        Larry Horwitz

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        • #19
          extract?

          I just ordered materials to make a vanilla brown ale, how much extract should I be using per bbl? I plan on adding 1/2 the amount near the end of the boil, and 1/2 during racking, any advice on this idea?

          Thanks!
          www.devilcraft.jp
          www.japanbeertimes.com

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          • #20
            I'm hearing a volume anyewhere from 16 oz. to 32 oz. per barrel. I'd start on the low side, as you can always add more, but if you spike it too much, well, you're spiked

            Rob
            "By man's sweat and God's love, beer came into the world" -- St. Arnold of Metz

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            • #21
              Anyone ever blended an all natural hazelnut extract with an all natural vanilla extract in a brown ale? Any recommendations on amounts of each?

              Cheers!
              BrewerTL

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              • #22
                hmmm...low side still too much?

                Ok, I went on the lower side, and added 10 oz to my barrel and I can't help but feel that even that much vanilla extract is washing out my hops... I added 8 oz near the end of the boil, and 2 oz before bottling for finishing.

                The taste is smooth...almost too smooth, and while the vanilla aftertaste is very refreshing, and the beer definitely makes me (and my tasters) want to drink more, and more, and more...it wasn't the bite I was looking for.

                I bought Madagascar Vanilla extract from Nielsen-Massey, and I'm wondering if that variety is the culprit. For anyone who used the vanilla beans, what kind of results did you come up with?

                Thanks!
                www.devilcraft.jp
                www.japanbeertimes.com

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                • #23
                  Well, for my 15 bbl. batch of porter, with #1 of fresh chopped/pureed beans added at VDK rest, I ended up with what several patrons have described as "a smooth dark roasted coffee with a shot of vanilla syrup..." beer. I can't stop drinking it
                  Having never brewed using extract, I was quite pleased with the results of the fresh beans.
                  "By man's sweat and God's love, beer came into the world" -- St. Arnold of Metz

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                  • #24
                    Okay.....I'll try again.

                    Anyone ever used hazelnuts or a hazelnut extract blended with vanilla in a brown ale?
                    BrewerTL

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                    • #25
                      Virginia Dare produces all manner of flavorings and extracts, from all natural to not. Not all flavors or extracts are stock though, and may need several weeks.
                      Sounds tasty!
                      DLG
                      Application Specialist - Process Instrumentation
                      Brewer & Maltster

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                      • #26
                        im putting plans together for a home brew experiment, im going to make a vanilla stout (sweet)

                        although vanilla is not at all cheap, i think using extract is pretty poor. go for proper vanilla pods/beans! there's some real harsh nasty tastes in extract i really dont think you want in beer
                        GeorgeJ
                        Head Brewer - TDM 1874 Brewery.
                        Yokohama, Japan.

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                        • #27
                          acidic taste

                          Well I brewed it and its been selling well but I've found that it has a slight acidic taste. I use a 100% pure extract that I get from Tripper. 20bbl batchs with a gallon at knock out and a gallon after primary fermentation is done. Any thoughts? Its seems to mellow a bit over time but I'd like it to be smoother. BTW the base beer is a 1.050 brown ale.

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                          • #28
                            just trying t bounce it up to the top. Any help is appreciated. I've talked to several brewers who suggest adding all the vanilla after primary fermentation is done. Reading the old responses it seems like many favor adding it to the boil.

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                            • #29
                              My last vanilla experiment with extract was a failure, ended up dumping about 1/2 the test batch because I was so unhappy with the results. I bottled some up to see how it would age, and it only seemed to get worse over time. It was my 3rd try with extract, and I figure it is pretty much a strikeout for me. I think the Nielsen-Massey was the best results of the 3 brands I tried, but all seemed to be a bit too medicinal for my tastes.

                              I talked to another brewer who suggested I add extract during primary fermentation, as the co2 would scrub out the harsher flavors, much like it does with hops. Seems like an idea, and I can always test and add more extract to the secondary if I loose too much. Better too little than too much IMO...

                              Next time I'm going to try vanilla beans like a dry hop in the primary.
                              www.devilcraft.jp
                              www.japanbeertimes.com

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                              • #30
                                funny you mention nielsen massey I just decided to switch to them after doing a taste test.

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