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Thread: Glyphosate(Monsanto Roundup) residue in Barley/Wheat/ Finished Beer

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    Glyphosate(Monsanto Roundup) residue in Barley/Wheat/ Finished Beer

    I've read that in Germany that lab tests indicate glyphosate(Monsanto Roundup) in finished beer, indicating that farmers are using it to "set up" for a more efficient harvest. I was wondering if this is a standard operating procedure for farmers here in the U.S. and if they have to disclose it to their respective sales distributors and pass that info on to the consumers/breweries et. al. Also, I've been following the organic vs traditional malt thread and if organic farmers(whether certified or not) strictly prohibit glyphosate in their products, that would nudge me over to consuming organic products for my brewing raw materials.

    Thanx,

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    A link or reference to that paper would be nice.

    Unless growers are planting "round-up ready" GM crops, they won't be using glyphosate on barley, as it kills it too.
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    I'd say the purveyors of the first two links make a lot of things up but to be helpful see the AMBA press release last month. Might try contacting them for more info:

    http://ambainc.org/stream/item/6/amb...ents-on-grains
    Last edited by Chaz; 05-06-2016 at 03:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewer Bob View Post
    I could go on and on....research yourself. You can't make this stuff up!
    Well, actually, it's the internet and very few people actually know what "research" means--so you're pretty much free to make up any damned thing you please, and almost no one will catch you out.

    For instance, the first link above is a rather liberal elaboration of a Reuters report--and seems to invent numbers out of thin air (30 ug glyphosate/liter in the link, >0.1 ug/l in the Reuters account).

    Reuters is a real news service, with real fact-checkers and lawyers who don't like libel or defamation suits--for which they are liable.

    As for the ground likely being prepared by spraying with glyphosate, that's likely. This is a rather standard practice to kill weeds before planting. "Soaking the soil", however, would be a pretty expensive waste. Glyphosate kills standing, growing plants, not seeds, and farmers know their business.
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    Thanks for that link Chaz. Yeah, I just wanted to get the convo started so, if anyone had accurate info etc. on this subject, I believe to be profoundly important to brewers and consumers alike. It would be nice to see the sponsor of this section chime in with any knowledge or anyone else in the growing/distribution industry.

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    Glyphosate is deadly

    Its about that simple and ALL usage and production of it has to stop.
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    When that info was first released I immediately sent requests for more info to two of the largest malt suppliers in the US that I buy from. I was told by both the info in the study is not that accurate. Both stated with certainty that there are no GM varieties of Malting Barley out there, as there is no need for it. All the manipulation is done by selective breeding. Leading them to state that there was no glyphos being used in Malting Barley Production. What they did say is most likely there was residual amounts in the fields that a farmer may have converted from another crop to barley. They stated that the amount of glyphos that could make it into the barley is far far less than most foods in the grocery store. I also spoke to the farmer who grows the Kentucky Grown Malt we use in brewing one of our beers. He stated the same. There is just not a need, Barley is a winter crop as well it goes dormant thru the winter. Take for what it is worth more internet fodder.
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    Thumbs up

    Thanks for that info BrewinLou. I can understand the barley being safe...I don't think that it would germinate for malting purposes if there was glyphosate all over it but, my concerns are for both oats and wheat which allot of us use as adjuncts in our beer. I think that it is good to keep the conversation going as we gather more info like this.

    Cheers!

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    Here is the media release from the Umweltinstitut München. In German, but numbers are numbers.

    http://www.umweltinstitut.org/filead...titut_2016.pdf

    Here is a message from the German Brewers`Union including a statement from the German National Institute for Risk Analysis. In English.

    http://www.brauer-bund.de/download/T...%20Brewers.pdf

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    Talking

    Thanks for the link. I'm glad we are sharing info on this vitally important topic. Here's another link with more info:

    http://www.naturalblaze.com/2016/10/...hy-gluten.html


    Let's keep the conversation going! Thanks!


    Bob

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    Not just GMO Crops getting sprayed with Glyphosate!


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