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    Receptacle locations for on tank Fermentation Controller

    We plan on having two rows of FV's in the middle of the room. They will not be near a wall except at one end of the row. Planning on using the simpler fermentation controller similar to a Johnson Control unit attached to each tank. Does anyone have any suggestions on where to run the electrical receptacles for these? Should there be outlets overhead? Our ceiling height will be 20' and we plan on have 10 and 20 BBl tanks. Our electrical guy is suggesting a stub up out of the floor as the floor has not been put in yet, but that just sounds like it will be hard to clean the floor in that area.

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    Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmcint01 View Post
    We plan on having two rows of FV's in the middle of the room. They will not be near a wall except at one end of the row. Planning on using the simpler fermentation controller similar to a Johnson Control unit attached to each tank. Does anyone have any suggestions on where to run the electrical receptacles for these? Should there be outlets overhead? Our ceiling height will be 20' and we plan on have 10 and 20 BBl tanks. Our electrical guy is suggesting a stub up out of the floor as the floor has not been put in yet, but that just sounds like it will be hard to clean the floor in that area.

    Thanks,
    Paul
    Having two rows sounds like you will have a decent amount of tanks. Is there a reason you want to go with "simpler" Johnsons? After working with both these and control panels with "Fuji" type PID controllers, I much prefer one centralized location for setting and recording temperatures. A lot quicker to check you cellar and make sure you don't overlook anything. Also easy to add more down the road. The PID controllers are actually quite simple and easy once you get an understanding for them, and cost is really quite negligible if you purchase cheaper PID's. Fugi is nice, but there are good knock-offs that do the exact same job.

    If you are set on the Johnsons, I would go with a central power location mid level on a far wall and just wire the cords to the single point. You can direct it away from wet areas that way. If you don't have walls close, then up to the ceiling and back down to a point on a wall. Ceiling is difficult if you have issues and floor stubs limit your ability to shift things around later. I have seen some who wire multiple Johnsons to one spot, but that takes a lot more space and never looks near as good/professional in the end. Its real easy to add more PID's to a box if it is over-sized to begin with.

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    What he said....

    I would not consider stand alone controllers. One reason is daisy-chaining 110v receptacles all over the place. Not safe! Another is that permanent equipment should be permanently wired. Not plugged in like a toaster! Instead, use a centralized panel with 110v input to power cheap controllers and a 24vac power supply--fuse input and output of this. Then run the 24vac control to solenoids. It's not difficult and doing things right the first time will save you way more time and money over the long run. You'll be happy you did. Good luck.
    Phillip Kelm--Palau Brewing Company Manager--

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