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    Chill X Chillers

    Does anyone have any experience using these type of chillers?

    https://chillxchillers.com/heat-exch...s?sku=SCTS0077

    We are looking to upgrade our buda diesel plate chiller, and came across these and it peaked our curiosity. Looking for some solid feedback on a direction to go weather it be this route or if someone has some really positive feedack on a different option. We have a 3bbl brewhouse going into 3 bbl unitanks. Thanks a lot in advance for any information good and bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firstmile View Post
    Does anyone have any experience using these type of chillers?

    https://chillxchillers.com/heat-exch...s?sku=SCTS0077

    We are looking to upgrade our buda diesel plate chiller, and came across these and it peaked our curiosity. Looking for some solid feedback on a direction to go weather it be this route or if someone has some really positive feedack on a different option. We have a 3bbl brewhouse going into 3 bbl unitanks. Thanks a lot in advance for any information good and bad.
    This device is a " Heat Exchanger " designed to tranfer heat from one pumped fluid to another under controlled flow and temperature conditions.
    How exactly are you planning on using it?
    Why do you need 77 thousand BTU of capacity?
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    We are hoping to use this as a wort chiller as a cheaper option to a plate chiller like you suggest. We would use our glycol chiller in the place of tap water to attempt to save some time on knock out going into the fermenter.

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    You want a plate-and-frame HX. Shell-and-tube exchangers are far less efficient.

    But if you really want a shell-and-tube HX, you can have the one we have sitting in the bone yard for scrap metal price. Just come and get it.

    Using your glycol system to cool the castback works, but you will need a very large chiller system to keep from heating your glycol and hence any active fermenters.

    The best practice is using cold water to cool the HX, then recovering the hot water out of the HX in a large hot liquor tank. Our castback water comes out between 140 and 160F, starting at around 40-50F. That's a lot of essentially free heat.
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    Thanks a lot for your brutal honesty. We will likely go the direction you are suggesting.

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    This is what you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGTimm View Post
    You want a plate-and-frame HX. Shell-and-tube exchangers are far less efficient.

    But if you really want a shell-and-tube HX, you can have the one we have sitting in the bone yard for scrap metal price. Just come and get it.

    .
    How big is it?

    Im actually looking into one as a solution for low temp whirlpool additions. Regular HX would clog with hops. One of these guys seems like it could work given the large openings. No?

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    I'll go out and drag a tape measure, but IIRC, it's about 8' long and 10" dia.

    I don't know about putting hops through it--these aren't easy to break down to clean. I'll see if I can get a pic of the tubes inside.
    Timm Turrentine

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    It's 11' overall length, 9" dia for the shell. 1 1/2" TC flanges for the tubes, 1 1/2" threads for the shell. Tubes appear to be about 1/2" dia.

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    Let me know if you're interested, Shipping would be more than the value of the HX.
    Timm Turrentine

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    Nuts. I didnt realize they were that small. You’re right, at 1/2” id be worried about clogging.

    I guess i assumed they got larger as the chiller increased in size.

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    The tubes have to be small to work at all. Surface area/volume ratio of a tube decreases by the square of the radius. You want maximum A/V for hat exchange. Even with the small tubes, these are far less efficient than plate-and-frame or brazed plate HXs.
    Timm Turrentine

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    Quote Originally Posted by firstmile View Post
    Does anyone have any experience using these type of chillers?

    https://chillxchillers.com/heat-exch...s?sku=SCTS0077

    We are looking to upgrade our buda diesel plate chiller, and came across these and it peaked our curiosity. Looking for some solid feedback on a direction to go weather it be this route or if someone has some really positive feedack on a different option. We have a 3bbl brewhouse going into 3 bbl unitanks. Thanks a lot in advance for any information good and bad.

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