So our plan is to buy blank cans and apply the labels in house. What are most people using to apply a label to a can? I was thinking it would be best to apply to the empty can but it being very heavy might cause problems. I looked at the AP360 from Primera, is there a good manual applicator that is pretty fast? thanks
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Originally posted by gitchegumee View PostWe used a small table-top unit to apply roll labels to empty cans at the infeed of our canning machine. Even had a hot printer for date coding. Worked quite well for us.
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search round bottle labeler on ebay, they work pretty well, fairly reliable. you can do about 15 a minute with them. Otherwise elf-50 labelers are really nice for small operations but cost about 10k, you can find an equivalent to the elf 50 from china for anywhere from 2k to 5k, if you are willing to wait for shipping and deal with customs, or pay for someone else to deal with customs.
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Originally posted by Foamtime View Postsearch round bottle labeler on ebay, they work pretty well, fairly reliable. you can do about 15 a minute with them. Otherwise elf-50 labelers are really nice for small operations but cost about 10k, you can find an equivalent to the elf 50 from china for anywhere from 2k to 5k, if you are willing to wait for shipping and deal with customs, or pay for someone else to deal with customs.
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Originally posted by Lomobrew View PostThanks, I'm going to go the ebay route. Last question, do you label before or after you fill the can?
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Foamtime....
What would be any advantage to that? Might be good for a short run with extenuating circumstances, but I'm not going to package beer into a cold room only to take it all apart to label it again at some later time! Besides there would be room for confusion in unlabeled cans being mixed. Feds like to see things labeled--for good reason. Don't see any reason why you choose to label after filling.Phillip Kelm--Palau Brewing Company Manager--
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Originally posted by gitchegumee View PostWhat would be any advantage to that? Might be good for a short run with extenuating circumstances, but I'm not going to package beer into a cold room only to take it all apart to label it again at some later time! Besides there would be room for confusion in unlabeled cans being mixed. Feds like to see things labeled--for good reason. Don't see any reason why you choose to label after filling.
Best solution is to label after the fill, inline , directly after seam-rinse-air dry.....
Labeling before fill if you are a small brewery doing everything by hand isn't the best option because more than likely people's hands are going to be all over and inside the cans and they'll be a less sterile environment going into fill.
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And BTW...
Anyone caught with their dirty paws inside a can is fired. No questions. No excuses. Label the cans before filling. When they aren't wet & cold. After seaming, a quick rinse and into a box they go! Done this with shrink as well as with pressure sensitive "sticker" labels. And we have never put a finger inside a can. Anyone that disgusting should not be working in a brewery.Phillip Kelm--Palau Brewing Company Manager--
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Originally posted by gitchegumee View PostAnyone caught with their dirty paws inside a can is fired. No questions. No excuses. Label the cans before filling. When they aren't wet & cold. After seaming, a quick rinse and into a box they go! Done this with shrink as well as with pressure sensitive "sticker" labels. And we have never put a finger inside a can. Anyone that disgusting should not be working in a brewery.
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Do, you who label cans prior to filling, ever have any issues with the labeler crushing or denting the cans? If not, What system do you use? We’re looking for a labeler for small seasonal runs at the moment, (15bbl max) and rather label post-fill, but open to hearing all opinions. Thanks in advance.
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