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  • Stout 3BBL Whirlpool Help

    So I would love a little help if anyone on a Stout system has any pointers. We are really trying to iron down processes to increase our yield. I'm not looking for the moon but I think we should be doing better than this.

    We've always had a hard time getting a tight cone. We made some modifications by adding a 3" high curved hop dam and it helps but not great. We purchased a standpipe from blichmann and it helps but not great.

    Here's our process.
    Whirlpool for 10 minutes at 38hz. This is not through the HX.
    Let settle for 30-45 minutes
    Dump tub until it runs clear and then knock out.

    I'm a few inches above the heating elements when I am finished. Granted the pic is a big hoppy beer but I'm losing 1/3 of my yield.

    If anyone has had a lightbulb moment on this system I'd love to hear some ideas.

    Thanks all!!!

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  • #2
    Originally posted by Crosley View Post
    So I would love a little help if anyone on a Stout system has any pointers. We are really trying to iron down processes to increase our yield. I'm not looking for the moon but I think we should be doing better than this.

    We've always had a hard time getting a tight cone. We made some modifications by adding a 3" high curved hop dam and it helps but not great. We purchased a standpipe from blichmann and it helps but not great.

    Here's our process.
    Whirlpool for 10 minutes at 38hz. This is not through the HX.
    Let settle for 30-45 minutes
    Dump tub until it runs clear and then knock out.

    I'm a few inches above the heating elements when I am finished. Granted the pic is a big hoppy beer but I'm losing 1/3 of my yield.

    If anyone has had a lightbulb moment on this system I'd love to hear some ideas.

    Thanks all!!!

    Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk
    We have a very similar setup but we use muslin bags for hops to avoid this very problem. it has not effected our hop utilization which is actually over 100% in beersmith. we still get some break and whirlpool but its enough were it stays in the center and we can drain from the side bottom port without issue... Maybe just Try using bags for a brew if you havent already?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by augiedoggy View Post
      We have a very similar setup but we use muslin bags for hops to avoid this very problem. it has not effected our hop utilization which is actually over 100% in beersmith. we still get some break and whirlpool but its enough were it stays in the center and we can drain from the side bottom port without issue... Maybe just Try using bags for a brew if you havent already?
      I tried bags at first with no luck. How big of a bags are you using??

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Crosley View Post
        I tried bags at first with no luck. How big of a bags are you using??

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        Well we use one for each hop addition they are around 16-18" tall and we hang them with string we tie off to one of the lid clasps so they dont just drop to the bottom.

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        • #5
          Have you tried slowing down the whirlpool to a gentle circulation? We've found it really doesn't need to be that vigorous of a whirlpool to do the trick.

          Cheers,
          John

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          • #6
            One of the drawbacks of this type of kettle. If you look into the research that was done on whirlpool tank design and operation, you will find that the best results are from tanks with no protrusions into the vessel. You've got 4, its going to make the whirlpool less effective.

            I would make sure you have a good strainer inline before your heat exchanger. You could also consider getting a separate whirlpool vessel, to which you pump the entire wort over to at the end of the boil.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by John@Brewmation View Post
              Have you tried slowing down the whirlpool to a gentle circulation? We've found it really doesn't need to be that vigorous of a whirlpool to do the trick.

              Cheers,
              John
              That is for the info John. I've tried everything fro. 12 hz to 50 hz and our optimum seems to be around 38.

              I am not blaming Stout or you guys. Its just the nature of having protrusions and seeing if anyone has any help.

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              • #8
                Would adding a grant be any help? I've been considering a grant and one thought I had is that I could gravity drain through a bag, into the grant, then pump from grant through HX into FV?

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                • #9
                  I have the 2bbl Stout and I purchased the wort grant from them, but have not used it, how would I incorporate it in the transfer from BK to HX on the way to the FV?

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